Comments on: The Leaving http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/the-leaving/ Random ramblings from the home office of a web developer in Dublin, Ireland Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:13:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: John Morrison http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/the-leaving/#comment-169 John Morrison Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://janinedalton.com/wp/?p=67#comment-169 This may seem harsh, but you can be sure he deserved to be deported. Its just too easy to come to ireland now and take advantage of the hardworking irish tax payer. Not mention that a lot of immigrant to ireland and are now coming from the ranks of criminals from africa, eastern europe. Its about time we put a system in place which attracts the people we need and stops the wrong people coming to our shores. This may seem harsh, but you can be sure he deserved to be deported. Its just too easy to come to ireland now and take advantage of the hardworking irish tax payer. Not mention that a lot of immigrant to ireland and are now coming from the ranks of criminals from africa, eastern europe. Its about time we put a system in place which attracts the people we need and stops the wrong people coming to our shores.

]]> By: laura http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/the-leaving/#comment-170 laura Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://janinedalton.com/wp/?p=67#comment-170 how exactly was he taking advantage of the tax payer if he was employed part time to fund himself? i can't see how a Nigerian interested in educating himself and hoping to get a better start in life through education is "the wrong sort". what we actually need to do john morrison is change the minds of bigoted people like you who can't see that some people are interested in working hard and not just sponging off the state, which in some cases is because the asylum system is fundamentally flawed. to deny asylum seekers the right to work means that they have to be dependent on the state. i am sure many of them would rather work. perhaps some asylum seekers are criminals. but i hardly think a young man in full time education and working part time fits that description. ironic that you are called "morrison". have you heard of morrison visas? how many irish have worked illegally in other countries, living in fear of deportation? it's not a pleasant thing to happen to anyone. how exactly was he taking advantage of the tax payer if he was employed part time to fund himself?

i can’t see how a Nigerian interested in educating himself and hoping to get a better start in life through education is “the wrong sort”.

what we actually need to do john morrison is change the minds of bigoted people like you who can’t see that some people are interested in working hard and not just sponging off the state, which in some cases is because the asylum system is fundamentally flawed. to deny asylum seekers the right to work means that they have to be dependent on the state. i am sure many of them would rather work.

perhaps some asylum seekers are criminals. but i hardly think a young man in full time education and working part time fits that description.

ironic that you are called “morrison”. have you heard of morrison visas? how many irish have worked illegally in other countries, living in fear of deportation? it’s not a pleasant thing to happen to anyone.

]]> By: Bernie Goldbach http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/the-leaving/#comment-171 Bernie Goldbach Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://janinedalton.com/wp/?p=67#comment-171 I pay top taxes to the Irish Exchequer and I've seen the inside of the deportation system. It is not a caring system. There are plenty of reasons to suspect the way the Immigration Bureau conducts its business. Speaking from experience, once you're caught in the net, you have no comeback. It's as though you don't exist. You cannot expect fair play from an immigration officer no matter where you land. There are issues in the States and in Ireland. However, I like the ability to converse in English to British authorities--who have earned a gold star in my book. My book starts here: http://irish.typepad.com/irisheyes/2004/09/refused_leave_t.html I pay top taxes to the Irish Exchequer and I’ve seen the inside of the deportation system. It is not a caring system. There are plenty of reasons to suspect the way the Immigration Bureau conducts its business. Speaking from experience, once you’re caught in the net, you have no comeback. It’s as though you don’t exist. You cannot expect fair play from an immigration officer no matter where you land. There are issues in the States and in Ireland.

However, I like the ability to converse in English to British authorities–who have earned a gold star in my book.

My book starts here:

http://irish.typepad.com/irisheyes/2004/09/refused_leave_t.html

]]> By: janine http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/the-leaving/#comment-172 janine Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://janinedalton.com/wp/?p=67#comment-172 i'm as concerned about where my taxes go as anyone else john, and i realise that some immigrants have exploited our system, just as some natives con the social welfare etc. but like laura, i'd like to know what constitutes the "wrong people". i also think the ban on asylum seekers working is nonsensical... i’m as concerned about where my taxes go as anyone else john, and i realise that some immigrants have exploited our system, just as some natives con the social welfare etc. but like laura, i’d like to know what constitutes the “wrong people”. i also think the ban on asylum seekers working is nonsensical…

]]> By: Caoimhe http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/the-leaving/#comment-173 Caoimhe Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://janinedalton.com/wp/?p=67#comment-173 I totally agree with you about the work ban being ridiculous...it does nothing to help integration, how the government can be lecturing the people on racism whilst basically promoting it through not allowing asylum seekers to work and thus creating resentment in the Irish is astonishing. Have the deportation authorities given any explanation about why this boy was deported? We have to agree that illegal immigration can't be allowed or else the country would simply collapse. Thats my problem with this....my instinct is to pity the young lad who was getting on with his life here in Ireland but another part of me feels that real asylum seekers are done an injustice by those with false claims. If he was illegal, should he not have been deported?? I totally agree with you about the work ban being ridiculous…it does nothing to help integration, how the government can be lecturing the people on racism whilst basically promoting it through not allowing asylum seekers to work and thus creating resentment in the Irish is astonishing.

Have the deportation authorities given any explanation about why this boy was deported? We have to agree that illegal immigration can’t be allowed or else the country would simply collapse. Thats my problem with this….my instinct is to pity the young lad who was getting on with his life here in Ireland but another part of me feels that real asylum seekers are done an injustice by those with false claims. If he was illegal, should he not have been deported??

]]> By: janine http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/the-leaving/#comment-174 janine Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://janinedalton.com/wp/?p=67#comment-174 i take your point caoimhe. it could well be the case that this guy's case to seek asylum just did not stand up. however, i heard on the radio this evening that at the 3rd stage of the process, discretion can be used and some applicants can be allowed stay put regardless. when we have to allow in anyone who turns up from the eu i don't see why this individual who seemed to have really made a go of it here could not stay. and even if there were valid grounds for deportation, i think that the manner in which it was done was not the most humane. i take your point caoimhe. it could well be the case that this guy’s case to seek asylum just did not stand up. however, i heard on the radio this evening that at the 3rd stage of the process, discretion can be used and some applicants can be allowed stay put regardless.

when we have to allow in anyone who turns up from the eu i don’t see why this individual who seemed to have really made a go of it here could not stay. and even if there were valid grounds for deportation, i think that the manner in which it was done was not the most humane.

]]> By: Bernie Goldbach http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/the-leaving/#comment-175 Bernie Goldbach Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://janinedalton.com/wp/?p=67#comment-175 It's all a stunt to spark conversation about "Get Tough Ireland" because deporting a teenager a few months short of completing state funded education is indefensible fiscal policy and incongruous social policy. When a justice minister is driving the social and education briefs of Ireland, something is out of balance. It’s all a stunt to spark conversation about “Get Tough Ireland” because deporting a teenager a few months short of completing state funded education is indefensible fiscal policy and incongruous social policy. When a justice minister is driving the social and education briefs of Ireland, something is out of balance.

]]> By: Sinéad http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/the-leaving/#comment-176 Sinéad Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://janinedalton.com/wp/?p=67#comment-176 Kunle is allowed to come home. Its only for six months so he can sit his leaving cert but everyone in Palmerstown is very excited about his return! Kunle is allowed to come home. Its only for six months so he can sit his leaving cert but everyone in Palmerstown is very excited about his return!

]]> By: janine http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/the-leaving/#comment-177 janine Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://janinedalton.com/wp/?p=67#comment-177 yes it's great news sinead, the school in palmerstown put great pressure on - were you involved yourself?? hopefully this case has highlighted the issues in general yes it’s great news sinead, the school in palmerstown put great pressure on - were you involved yourself?? hopefully this case has highlighted the issues in general

]]> By: niall dunne http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/the-leaving/#comment-178 niall dunne Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://janinedalton.com/wp/?p=67#comment-178 He was paying taxes and settled in really well he should be allowed to stay as long as he wants. He's not recieving any help and is pulling his own weight **you should not judge a person by their culture or colour, But by there actions".** He was paying taxes and settled in really well he should be allowed to stay as long as he wants. He’s not recieving any help and is pulling his own weight
**you should not judge a person by their culture or colour, But by there actions”.**

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