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		<title>By: mish</title>
		<link>http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/artistic-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>mish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now you&#039;re talking my area. there should clearly be thresholds for exemptions like this (that&#039;s if they should exist at all) up to say an income of €14,500 or whatever the minimum wage is in annual terms. tis ridiculous that the likes of bono get away without paying tax on royalties, when they clearly can afford to. i remember not so long ago a certain mr. smith claiming one of the principles of taxation should be equity - i.e. that one is taxed according to their ability to pay. not so it seems. mr. marx would be similarly unimpressed i feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now you&#8217;re talking my area. there should clearly be thresholds for exemptions like this (that&#8217;s if they should exist at all) up to say an income of €14,500 or whatever the minimum wage is in annual terms. tis ridiculous that the likes of bono get away without paying tax on royalties, when they clearly can afford to. i remember not so long ago a certain mr. smith claiming one of the principles of taxation should be equity &#8211; i.e. that one is taxed according to their ability to pay. not so it seems. mr. marx would be similarly unimpressed i feel.</p>
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		<title>By: mish</title>
		<link>http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/artistic-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>mish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. i had to try really hard not to turn this into a personal vendetta / rant against the *fabulous* Cecelia Ahern. thank got for comment moderation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. i had to try really hard not to turn this into a personal vendetta / rant against the *fabulous* Cecelia Ahern. thank got for comment moderation!</p>
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		<title>By: fmk</title>
		<link>http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/artistic-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>fmk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think they&#039;ll go for a threshold. rather i suspect that they&#039;ll apply a lower rate of tax to these earnings, similar to the way we use corporation tax to encourage foreign companies to come here. for that is the secondary purpose of the exemption - to encourage artists either to come here, or our own homegrown ones to stay here (unlike, say, the tony o&#039;reillys and denis o&#039;briens, who live abroad as far as the tax man is concerned). (that said, anything that&#039;d encourage la ahrern to domicile herself somewhere else would be welcome.)

this really is the least of the schemes in terms of the damage it does. only the people who are actually contributing something cultural get the benefeit, unlike most of the other schemes - especially the film industry&#039;s s481 - in which anyone can invest their income in order to avoid tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll go for a threshold. rather i suspect that they&#8217;ll apply a lower rate of tax to these earnings, similar to the way we use corporation tax to encourage foreign companies to come here. for that is the secondary purpose of the exemption &#8211; to encourage artists either to come here, or our own homegrown ones to stay here (unlike, say, the tony o&#8217;reillys and denis o&#8217;briens, who live abroad as far as the tax man is concerned). (that said, anything that&#8217;d encourage la ahrern to domicile herself somewhere else would be welcome.)</p>
<p>this really is the least of the schemes in terms of the damage it does. only the people who are actually contributing something cultural get the benefeit, unlike most of the other schemes &#8211; especially the film industry&#8217;s s481 &#8211; in which anyone can invest their income in order to avoid tax.</p>
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		<title>By: daithi</title>
		<link>http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/artistic-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>daithi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; only the people who are actually contributing something cultural get the benefeit

Bellefire? You might want to rethink that one fmk. I personally find it to be an offence to culture that acts such as this (and Westlife, Ronan Keating and my least-favourite-&quot;person&quot;-du-jour, who I&#039;m not going to keep naming everywhere) are actually *rewarded* for forcing their pathetic excuse for art on us all.

Surely inter-county GAA players contribute more to Irish culture than these plonkers, and they still haven&#039;t been given *any* form of tax breaks.

/me rereads my comment and reaches for the  tags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>> only the people who are actually contributing something cultural get the benefeit</p>
<p>Bellefire? You might want to rethink that one fmk. I personally find it to be an offence to culture that acts such as this (and Westlife, Ronan Keating and my least-favourite-&#8221;person&#8221;-du-jour, who I&#8217;m not going to keep naming everywhere) are actually *rewarded* for forcing their pathetic excuse for art on us all.</p>
<p>Surely inter-county GAA players contribute more to Irish culture than these plonkers, and they still haven&#8217;t been given *any* form of tax breaks.</p>
<p>/me rereads my comment and reaches for the  tags.</p>
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		<title>By: daithi</title>
		<link>http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/artistic-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>daithi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;ll teach me to post without previewing. I was reaching for the &lt;rant&gt; tags incidentally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;ll teach me to post without previewing. I was reaching for the &lt;rant&gt; tags incidentally.</p>
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		<title>By: fmk</title>
		<link>http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/artistic-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>fmk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate being put into the position of defending the likes of bellefire and ronan etc, but no one&#039;s *forcing* anything onto us. the consumer is still king. that the people in this country have shit taste? well what&#039;s new. we only to have to look back at the likes of chris de burgh and david gray to see that.

now of course, if you want to get into an argument over what has cultural value and what hasn&#039;t, and have the government define cultural for us, and say what is and isn&#039;t allowed, well i think that could be an interesting form of government to try, for a while. as it is, the sort of society we have, we get to choose for ourselves, with our wallets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate being put into the position of defending the likes of bellefire and ronan etc, but no one&#8217;s *forcing* anything onto us. the consumer is still king. that the people in this country have shit taste? well what&#8217;s new. we only to have to look back at the likes of chris de burgh and david gray to see that.</p>
<p>now of course, if you want to get into an argument over what has cultural value and what hasn&#8217;t, and have the government define cultural for us, and say what is and isn&#8217;t allowed, well i think that could be an interesting form of government to try, for a while. as it is, the sort of society we have, we get to choose for ourselves, with our wallets.</p>
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		<title>By: fmk</title>
		<link>http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/artistic-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>fmk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Surely inter-county GAA players contribute more to Irish culture than these plonkers, and they still haven&#039;t been given *any* form of tax breaks.&quot;

there are tax exemptions for sports people too, some of which are even more offensive than the artists&#039; exemption scheme in the way they allow the wealthy to avoid paying income tax. bujt few sports people have the stature or as soft a target as bono and the boys in u2.

as for inter-county gaa folk - they, dear boy, are amatures, as the gaa constantly points out, and so shouldn&#039;t be making any money from the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Surely inter-county GAA players contribute more to Irish culture than these plonkers, and they still haven&#8217;t been given *any* form of tax breaks.&#8221;</p>
<p>there are tax exemptions for sports people too, some of which are even more offensive than the artists&#8217; exemption scheme in the way they allow the wealthy to avoid paying income tax. bujt few sports people have the stature or as soft a target as bono and the boys in u2.</p>
<p>as for inter-county gaa folk &#8211; they, dear boy, are amatures, as the gaa constantly points out, and so shouldn&#8217;t be making any money from the game.</p>
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		<title>By: daithi</title>
		<link>http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/artistic-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>daithi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fun!

&gt;&gt; the consumer is still king
You could also argue that the marketers are king. That that McFadden plonker for example. Last Sunday he was in the paper (IoS) because he went to see his sister in a play. This morning, he&#039;s in the Indo because he was on MTV yesterday. Co-incidentally, his new single was mentioned both times. Similar stuff with Westlife. Their singles get saturation airplay before they ever hit the shops. Why not give their PR companies tax breaks too? (OK - I&#039;m being needlessy inflammatory. I&#039;ll stop now ;) ).

For the GAA peeps, I realise they&#039;re amateur but that&#039;s all the more reason that they should be given some tax credit for their regular income in recognition of what they do. IMO anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fun!</p>
<p>>> the consumer is still king<br />
You could also argue that the marketers are king. That that McFadden plonker for example. Last Sunday he was in the paper (IoS) because he went to see his sister in a play. This morning, he&#8217;s in the Indo because he was on MTV yesterday. Co-incidentally, his new single was mentioned both times. Similar stuff with Westlife. Their singles get saturation airplay before they ever hit the shops. Why not give their PR companies tax breaks too? (OK &#8211; I&#8217;m being needlessy inflammatory. I&#8217;ll stop now <img src='http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>For the GAA peeps, I realise they&#8217;re amateur but that&#8217;s all the more reason that they should be given some tax credit for their regular income in recognition of what they do. IMO anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Caoimhe</title>
		<link>http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/artistic-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Caoimhe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daithi, for your own peace of mind you need to let the McFadden obsession go!  

I totally agree with the GAA suggestion, they contribute so much to the Country that I believe the majority of the population would rather grant them some tax credit than see Cecilia not have to bother with her tax returns!!

p.s ever thought how messed up it is that her name is closly linked with Daddy&#039;s long term mistress!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daithi, for your own peace of mind you need to let the McFadden obsession go!  </p>
<p>I totally agree with the GAA suggestion, they contribute so much to the Country that I believe the majority of the population would rather grant them some tax credit than see Cecilia not have to bother with her tax returns!!</p>
<p>p.s ever thought how messed up it is that her name is closly linked with Daddy&#8217;s long term mistress!!!</p>
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		<title>By: fmk</title>
		<link>http://www.janinedalton.com/blog/archives/2005/artistic-licence/comment-page-1/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>fmk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daithi - why do the media report so much about the likes of mcfadden? do you think it might have anything - even a teensy weensy little bit - to do with the fact that it attracts the punters? the punter chooses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daithi &#8211; why do the media report so much about the likes of mcfadden? do you think it might have anything &#8211; even a teensy weensy little bit &#8211; to do with the fact that it attracts the punters? the punter chooses.</p>
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